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Radically Apostolic And The Partnership Of Faith ... English
We welcome evangelist and author Charles Robinet for a candid talk about despair, deliverance, and the two books that rose from it. From a life-saving phone call to a rallying cry for unity, we trace how prophetic prayer equips individuals and partnership multiplies impact.
• military-to-missions journey across Europe
• church hurt, depression, and a near-suicide moment
• healing through writing Radically Apostolic
• prophetic prayer as speaking Scripture with clarity
• moving from addition to multiplication in ministry
• who the books are for and why they matter now
• Audible and Amazon availability details
• the Partnership of Faith and breaking fear, jealousy, control
• collaboration, cooperation, and communication as growth engines
• Revelation 7:9 as the vision for a global harvest
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Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Christian Book Tour. My name is Amy Elizabeth, General Manager of KFXB. And today I have our next Christian author, um, evangelist Charles Robinet has written two books that he has with us today. And I'm really interested in hearing about both of these books. And can you share with the audience a little bit just about who you are before we actually get into talking about your books?
SPEAKER_01:Yes, ma'am. It's such an honor to be with you. And it was a joy to be with you on GPS. And oh my goodness, we had so much fun talking and just sharing about the kingdom. Um, my wife and I have uh been married 31 years, and we started together in ministry in I was in the military. Um, so we started together first in the military, but in the military we got in the ministry together, and from there we got into global missions and became missionaries in Belgium first, where we started our first church in um uh the Flemish-speaking region of Belgium. We started our first church, which is now pastored by one of our sons in the gospel, and then from there we traveled to Switzerland and started the first um Jesus-name church in Geneva, Switzerland, which is also pastored by one of our sons in the gospel. And from there uh we became missionaries to Germany and Austria and Liechtenstein. And since then, we became international evangelists and have traveled all over the place preaching the gospel and serving God's people and lifting the arms of his global church and helping equip and establish his body for greater things. So it's just a joy to be a part of this kingdom journey with so many great people.
SPEAKER_02:Amen. And you had plans to do this your whole life, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, Jeremiah chapter one.
SPEAKER_01:Uh before I came out of the womb, God knew me. No, uh, that's not true. Um, yeah, no, interesting. You know, I always wanted to be um uh in the military, which was, you know, all boys do. You're like you you're always thinking about the military. So I grew up with dreams of being in the military and being a police officer, and I wound up being a police officer in the military. So um that was my dream. It wasn't the kingdom, I had a lower dream, and now God has given me a higher dream.
SPEAKER_02:Amen. So and here we are with the abundant life in Jesus for his kingdom and his glory.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, it's an amazing journey. Yes, amen. Anybody who doesn't want to be a part of this journey just doesn't know how good it is. Yeah, it's so good.
SPEAKER_02:They're not walking the Christian walk the way that God intended us.
SPEAKER_01:Everything that I've done good in this life came out of being in the river with the Lord, flowing with him. I I look back over my life and I look at all of the good points, all of these great victories, the places that God has, you know, we talked about this on GPS, but you know, I mean, as a young man, um I didn't know what I didn't know. And I just walked in such um lacking and unfulfillment and discouragement and frustration and just couldn't seem to get anywhere until I got in the river. And once I got there, the things that God has allowed my wife and I to do because of his spirit are so far beyond anything I could have ever given to myself. I'm so grateful for his hand on our life, and I look at my daughters even what God is doing in their lives, and that didn't come from education, and it didn't come from money, and it didn't come from religion. It came from the river. That river of living water, and I'm I'm grateful. I have nothing but thankfulness in my spirit, and I'm thankful.
SPEAKER_02:Amen. Jesus. All right. Well, let's get into we've got two of your books here. One, first one's called Radically Apostolic that you wrote in 2021, correct? And then the partnership of faith that you published last year. Yes, me. So let's start with Radically Apostolic, the first book that you wrote. Um, tell us a little bit about why you felt the unction from the Holy Spirit to write that book, maybe um who your audience is for.
SPEAKER_01:Sure. Um, I really can't even believe I'm gonna say this out loud uh because I never have. Um, but Amy and I talked about this in our GPS episode more in detail. But in 2019, um I went through a really uh discouraging season and became very um brokenhearted. I had suffered a lot of rejection. Um I had felt um just very hurt by I had church hurt, okay? Um very real church hurt, and I couldn't process the church hurt, and I couldn't figure out how to get past it. And because I wasn't in the river, the pain had drawn me out of the river, and because I got out of the river, I started hearing the enemy more clearly, and the enemy was saying, You're useless, you have no value, you uh, you you you're you're nothing, and the best thing you could do is take your own life. And so I'm hearing these these voices, and I'm fighting these this voice of the enemy, and I'm not flowing in the spirit, but I've I've opened up myself to this to this voice of the enemy, and I remember um you know going and making some very bad decisions, deciding that the only way out was to take my own life. And um, you know, I'm not gonna tell the whole story. If you want the story, I guess you go back to the GPS episode. I don't even know if we recorded that part.
SPEAKER_02:It wasn't recorded, no, you were sharing it with me. Yeah, it was private.
SPEAKER_01:Um but I remember standing on a bridge and I was about to take my own life and my phone rang, and it was a um man of God from Oslo, Norway, named Jüren Andreasan, and it was late in the early morning of the next day where he was, late in the evening where I was, and the Lord woke Brother Andreasan up in the night and said, Call Charles Robinet and tell him to stop. And I'm standing on a bridge, I answered the phone, and it's Brother Andreasan, and he said, Brother Robinet, I don't know where you are, what you're doing, what decision you're about to make, but God said, Stop. God said, You are valuable to the kingdom. And brother Andreas son started praying for me on that bridge, and it prayed me out of depression, prayed me out of the spirit of suicide, prayed me out of a bad decision. I go back to Berlin, Germany, a mess. I'm just a mess of a man of God. And the Lord spoke to me in Germany and said, I'm going to heal you through writing. And I began to write. And I have a high school education. Um, so it's not like it was something within my fleshly means to do. It was a spirit-led thing. God said, I'm gonna heal you through writing. And long story short, I started writing this book radically apostolic, and through writing this book, God just he healed my heart, stripped depression away from me, stripped fear away from me, he stripped that suicidal spirit away from me. And out of this book came a faith again, an awakening of faith. And really the purpose of this book for God's global church was to get the individual ready. So many of us talked about wanting to be used of God, but we don't know the steps to get there. And God gave me in this book the steps for his global army to step into that prophetic ministry, to step into that faith ministry, to see things beyond addition, to see multiplication in the kingdom, to step into the gifts of the spirit, to step into the five-fold ministry. This book was given for God's global army to get themselves ready for these last days where we're going to see billions, billions get in the river, start being filled with the spirit, start walking in that kingdom calling, walking in that kingdom anointing, walking in those dimensions that have seemed so out of reach because you were trusting in the arm of the flesh. God put the keys to walking in the spirit in this book. And I talk about everything from submission to humility to prophetic prayer, and that's a key element. You can't have the great things in the kingdom if you're praying in the flesh. You got to get out of the flesh into prophetic prayers where you're speaking the things that are not as if they already are. That's verbally. Yes, it's kingdom verbiage where you're prophetically saying the Lord said. Yes. You can't have what God has said if you're not speaking what God has said. You gotta prophesy. That's that whole Ezekiel chapter 37 thing where God said, What do you see? And he said, I don't know. I'm a little intimidated, I'm a little insecure. And God said, Well, why don't you prophesy? Yes. And then God said, Prophesy this. He didn't tell him to get creative, he said, prophesy these words. Ezekiel didn't get creative. Ezekiel prophesied what God said.
SPEAKER_02:What he heard God say, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's the whole strategy of the word of God. Every one of your viewers should be opening the word of God up and saying, Thus saith the Lord. I prophesy I'm the head and not the tail. I prophesy I'm above and I'm never beneath. I prophesy that these signs shall follow them that believe. In my name shall they cast out devils. You gotta get a hold of the prophetic word of God and say, I don't want to just read it. I want to speak it. I want to speak the things that God has said until I see it with my own eyes. And that is a strategy that's in radically apostolic. It teaches your viewers and God's global army to prophesy the word. Get in line with what God is doing in these last days. Don't just read it, say it. Don't just say it, see it. You're gonna step into dimensions that are so far beyond your wildest expectation. You're gonna see greater things than these. And so God wanted me to write that book, not just to heal me, but to heal his global army, that it was operating well below their kingdom expectation. I want to be what God wants me to be, not what I'm comfortable being.
SPEAKER_02:Praise God. Praise the Lord. Well, first of all, I just want to say thank you for being so transparent in sharing with the audience, you know, where you are at and and the um what led you to write that book because so many people um don't talk about it. Yes, ma'am. And it's very the spirit of suicide is very prevalent these days. And it's um destroying families and destroying lives, and it's destroying God's destiny on people. Oh yes.
SPEAKER_01:And um, and I would have never thought, Amy, I would have never thought that I could have been there. It it seemed so far. How do people get in that place? But it's happening. And in this day and age where things are so discouraging and so frustrating and confusing, people are depressed and the enemy is whispering in it all. And yet God has a future for you that is so filled with hope and faith and power that if you give him a chance, he's gonna turn it all around and you're gonna see things that are beyond your wildest expectations. And I think about the doors that God has set before my family in these last days, and it all came out of that deliverance from depression, deliverance from suicide, deliverance from fear, how God took me from an accident waiting to happen to a future that has no bounds and ceilings that are unlimited.
SPEAKER_02:Praise the Lord. Well, I I thank him for your life, and I thank him that he sent someone that was obedient to make the call. Amen. Answered the call of God and to make the call to the city. Saved my soul. So, yeah, I just praise the Lord for that, man, and and for your life and for what he's continued to use you for. So it's it's amazing and beautiful, and you've been a blessing to have in this studio today. And um, so share with our audience a little bit more about Radically Apostolic. Why should somebody pick that book up?
SPEAKER_01:Oh my goodness, there's not anybody in this kingdom today. Doesn't matter what what religion you are, what you're associated with, there's nobody in this hour who is not feeling the drawing of the voice of the Lord who's saying, Hey, come out on the water. Let's go a little further, let's get a little deeper. You are there's not a person in this world that's not feeling that unction of the spirit saying, Come. If it's you, Lord, bid me to come. And you're hearing the voice saying, Come, and you don't know what to do, you don't know how to step, you don't know how to get there. This book is going to help you get out into that realm of the spirit, the deep waters of the spirit that's going to change your life, your ministry, your family, your future, your hope. This book is what you've been looking for. It's gonna, it's gonna help you. It'll bless you. It's blessed me writing it. And I've read it so many times. I've read it myself. Even the other day I was reading it on an airplane, I think coming back from Mongolia, and I was just kind of reminding myself about some things that I felt like, you know, maybe I need to get right again. And so this will help you become what God wants you to be.
SPEAKER_02:Awesome. Well, um, I think that anybody that has written a book and it's been completely led by the Holy Ghost can attest to the fact that you don't even remember what you put in the book. Because I know when I wrote my first book, I wrote it in 45 days. Wow. It wasn't my idea. Wow. I was like, Lord, I don't even know why I'm writing this, but I know you're in it, and so I'm gonna do it. I wrote it in 45 days, and I still I'll hand it out to people and and think, I I don't even remember what's in this book, but I feel like you're supposed to read it. So here you go, and I'll go back and I'll read it, and and I won't remember the things that I wrote in it because it was completely Holy Spirit led. So that's I mean, your own book is ministering to you even now.
SPEAKER_01:It's true.
SPEAKER_02:So it's true. That's amazing. Um, what's one of the what's one of your favorite things that you wrote in there?
SPEAKER_01:I would say that probably um my favorite chapter in the book is the book on prophecy. That to me, uh prophetic prayer, um, that was a revelation that changed my wife and I's life and ministry. Um, a lot of times people walk with this um this very um limited vision, obscure type of God's gonna do great things, but never really articulating what you're expecting him to do. A lot of times we are so fearful that he can't do it that we water it down, we mitigate the ability to make it generic so that man, if we hit anything, we'll win what a victory. Right. But God has so many greater things for his people that if we would just believe him, trust him, and prophesy as he's saying to prophesy. People think you have to be a prophet to prophesy the word, but that's not true. The word of God is prophetic. If you will loose it and seed it into the atmosphere, it will bear much fruit. That revelation alone is worth everything that was ever written in that book. That God would open my eyes and my wife and I's eyes and our children's eyes to the power of prophetic prayer. That's that's the game changer. So good. Oh, I will tell you this. Um it's also available on Audible. And I read it myself. And people, um, interestingly, Audible came a year later. So there was a testimony in the book that was incomplete because we didn't know what was gonna happen a year later. But in the Audible, I got to tell the rest of the story. So it is kind of cool. Uh, the Audible is awesome. Both of these books are available on Amazon, of course. Um, I think Radically Apostolic is also available at Barnes and Noble and anywhere, but both are available on Amazon. But uh the Audible of Radically Apostolic is already done, and the Audible of Partnership of Faith will be done by September next year. Awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and you've got a great voice, so that's good to hear you read your own story. So, well, let's switch to uh the second book, The Partnership of Faith. Wow. And I I have kind of the same questions for that book then. What, you know, why did you write that book? What's it about? Who's it for?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so this book was for us individually, for God's army individually, so you could become what you are supposed to become so we can see what God wants us to see. But this book dealt with us collectively. Uh we talked about it on GPS, which I really loved our time together. I want to say that again. That was amazing. Spirit-led beast mode conversation. Uh, if you don't want beast mode conversation, kingdom stuff, don't watch that one. Uh, we had such a great time, but you need to watch it. Um but this dealt with God's collective army, that whole community of believers globally. And I told you in that one of those episodes, God spoke to me about the three spirits that we are warned against: the spirit of fear, spirit of jealousy, and the spirit of control that's keeping us all boxed in. You do your thing, I'll do my thing, my four walls, my revival, my church, my city, nobody else. If the smoke isn't coming from my chimney, it's not real. And this whole mentality that's keeping God's global church in addition, when God is trying to give us multiplication, when God's trying to move us into stadiums and millions and billions being born again. And so God had me write this book to counter the culture, the tradition, and the religion that's keeping us so isolated when God is wanting us to work together. And so the subtitle of this bigger net catches more fish. It does. Why does it work? And you think about that, they needed more boats to get more fish, and they couldn't hold it themselves. This is this is a kingdom principle that's so I mean, so biblical.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Um, the subtitle of this book is The Power of Collaboration, Cooperation, and Communication. This is so critical that people can sit down like this. Okay? Me and you. We didn't know each other before today, okay? We knew of each other, but we met each other today, and yet there's this connection, there's this kingdom knitting of hearts. There was this willingness to collaborate on the kingdom together and to cooperate on the kingdom together. And now we're talking about going on crusades together and it's about the kingdom, right?
SPEAKER_02:It's not about kingdom. Not religion.
SPEAKER_01:It's not about my ministry, it's not about God, his mission, his vision, the whole gospel to the whole world by the whole church together, unity, power. So this is the key. Collaboration, cooperation, communication. I want to be building partnerships, the partnership of faith. I the Lord wants us to find ways. I I'm not, I don't want to be political. I'm not political. I'm I'm a really bad politician. Um I'm not made for it. I'm not trained for it. I don't have the education for it. Um, but I'm looking at this Charlie Kirk situation. You don't have to like him, you don't have to love him, I don't even care. That is not the topic of conversation. But here's the reality somehow, this guy's morality, this guy's mission, this guy's challenging, the the status quo has created this communical gathering where everybody could gather in a stadium together, and it didn't matter if we were Baptist, Catholic, Pentecostal, Lutheran, everybody is in a stadium together calling on the name of the Lord. And and there was this partnership. I I don't I'm I'm not celebrating his death. I I how tragic that this man had to give his life to bring multitudes together. Okay, but he did. I was in Mongolia when Charlie Kirk. Yes, oh wow, yes. I was in Mongolia when Charlie Kirk was was murdered, and my daughter, my youngest daughter Brie, who is an author as well, uh, just a beautiful young mind and young kingdom person, uh, 17 years old, put out her first book, and she's so cool. Um, but uh she just preached her first message on Sunday in Michigan.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, awesome!
SPEAKER_01:So proud of her. She preached a ladies' conference, and she preached about the call of God. I love it. And I was so proud of that little baby. Um, but anyhow, she called me in Mongolia and she was crying. And she said, you know, this has so destabilized her emotionally, the loss of Charlie Kirk. And um, and she wasn't really a follower, but it just hit her so hard that this could happen. First person she'd ever really seen assassinated or murdered or whatever, you know, that she knew of. And she said to me, She said, Daddy, what do we do now? And uh the Lord quickened my spirit to that old statement. I think Alexander Hamilton really deserves the credit for the statement. I've heard that there were other people who coined it in another way. Um, people like Malcolm X even said it in some way or another. But the statement was if you don't stand for something, you will surely fall for everything. And on the phone, I said, baby, here's the deal. Charlie Kirk was not trying to build a platin platform for himself. He wasn't trying to build a name for himself. What he was really trying to do was to create an army that had conviction. I said, What are you gonna do now? Post Charlie Kirk. Who are you gonna be? What are you standing for? What convictions do you have in your heart?
SPEAKER_02:I said, Because it's not about Charlie Kirk in the end, it's about Jesus.
SPEAKER_01:It's about Jesus. What are you gonna do for God? Yeah, okay, you lived in the shadow of this guy who was bold and he was great, and that's awesome, but he's gone. What about you? Who fills the void? Who fills the vacuum? I said, baby, if you don't stand for something, you're gonna fall for everything in this world. I said, but if you stand for Christ, so I think it's so important when we're talking about the partnership of faith that we all square our shoulders and we find a way to collaborate, to communicate, to talk, to do big things in the kingdom together because it's not about Baptist, it's not about AOG, it's not about the UPCI or the WPF or the ALGC. Guess what? It's about Revelation 7 and 9. It's about a great multitude that no man can number that's standing before the throne. So how are we gonna do this? You think you're gonna do it by yourself? No. You think I'm gonna do it by myself? Not a chance. But if we could find a way to collaborate and cooperate and communicate about the kingdom and not isolate ourselves, but unify in this moment. Link arms. Gosh, when that trumpet sounds, it's gonna be bigger than we could have imagined. That is my dream is that God's victory would be so great and so global and so mighty that nobody gets the credit but him. That's why we wrote Partnership of Faith.
SPEAKER_02:I love that. That's my heart too. You know, in the job that I have here, it's all about connecting people for the kingdom and networking. Yes. And I even, before I even took this job, I had a prophetic word spoken over me about um, you remember that old uh, I think it was a Coca-Cola commercial, and there was a they were standing on top of a hill and they were all linking arms together and they were singing about the world being united together. And I've had a prophet in my church speak that over me, and he said, You're gonna be connecting and networking. And so that's my heart. I love that. That's the the vision for that book is just to bring the body of Christ together and link arms because it's not about us and our ministry, it's about expanding the gospel.
SPEAKER_01:That is the trick of the enemy. Isolation is the key to the enemy's destruction. Yeah. But if we could fight that, link arms. You just revealed how old we are. You know, right?
SPEAKER_00:That yeah, that Coca-Cola commercial that's old. I'm not gonna say our age, but you just revealed it.
SPEAKER_02:Well, we have about one minute before we wrap up. Can you pick like one highlight out of this second book to share with the audience?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you know, um, for me, for me, the greatest takeaway of this book is that whole Revelation 7 and 9 argument. Really, that's the heartbeat. That was why God said to write this book. When God spoke about what it's gonna look like post-rapture, post-white throne, when we're standing before him, those who have washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb, and they have been born again of the water and of the Spirit, and they have been caught up to meet him in the air, and that multitude is so great and so mighty beyond anything we can imagine, can't be numbered. Every tribe, every nation, every culture. Yes. That is to me the takeaway that if we can just swallow our pride, put away carnality, link arms, join in the partnership of faith, jump in the river, be part of the multitude. It's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_02:Amen. Thanks for joining us for another episode of the Christian Book Tour.